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Oct 19, 2021

On episode 84 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Tim Sackett, Jessica Lee and Kris Dunn come together to discuss business travel during the pandemic, sending late night emails, and whether you should opt out of a group message. 

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3:00 - KD asks Tim what his favorite OG from old-school rap is. He loves LL Cool J and JLee likes Dr. Dre because of his purple satin suit. 

5:15 - KD has been hitting business travel hard over the last few weeks. He has been in 4 different locations after not having much at all for the last year and a half. He has really started to notice the different mentalities to COVID precautions/mask wearing in different parts of the country. 

8:00 - KD was surprised by the strict mask mandates that were in place in Las Vegas when he and Tim were there for a conference. 

11:00 - JLee is happy that the housekeeper at the hotel that KD stayed at felt empowered enough to enforce mask mandate policy.

14:30 - On a Southwest flight recently, KD heard the initial reactions of Southwest employees to a vaccine mandate.

17:00 - Tim mentions how some airlines offered early retirement to pilots during the pandemic and are now begging pilots to come back to work. 

20:00 - KD wrote a post recently titled “Are you a jerk for sending an email at 9 pm?”. KD references a study where they looked at this and they found that receivers of late emails overestimated the quickness of response needed. 

23:00 - JLee thinks that people in their mid-career won’t care when emails are sent and more senior employees may be more careful with their messaging. 

25:30 - If the future of remote work offers more flexibility, Tim thinks that email send time doesn’t matter as much anymore (with caveats). 

28:45 - There are folks out there that are very anti-after hours emails. 

32:00 - Tim doesn’t understand the people that want to have their cake and eat it too. How are we going to be working flexibly and then also defining after hours?

37:30 - JLee thinks it’s a power move to opt out of group messages, like group texts or chain emails. KD thinks it’s better to opt out instead of not participating at all. 

---------------Jessica Lee, Kris Dunn and Tim Sackett


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